{"id":611973235014,"date":"2025-10-16T16:41:47","date_gmt":"2025-10-16T16:41:47","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/blogs.ashridgetrees.co.uk\/blogs\/uncategorized\/old-vs-antique-rose-variety-difference\/"},"modified":"2026-06-06T07:06:49","modified_gmt":"2026-06-06T07:06:49","slug":"old-vs-antique-rose-variety-difference","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/blogs.ashridgetrees.co.uk\/blogs\/roses\/old-vs-antique-rose-variety-difference\/","title":{"rendered":"Old Roses VS Antique Roses"},"content":{"rendered":"<script type=\"application\/ld+json\">\n{\"@context\":\"https:\/\/schema.org\",\"@type\":\"FAQPage\",\"mainEntity\":[{\"@type\":\"Question\",\"name\":\"What are Old Garden Roses?\",\"acceptedAnswer\":{\"@type\":\"Answer\",\"text\":\"An Old Garden Rose belongs to a class of rose that existed before 1867, even if an individual variety was bred more recently. 1867 marks the introduction of the first Hybrid Tea rose, La France, which began the modern era of rose breeding.\"}},{\"@type\":\"Question\",\"name\":\"What is the difference between Old Roses and Antique Roses?\",\"acceptedAnswer\":{\"@type\":\"Answer\",\"text\":\"Antique Roses flower only once per year and include classes that existed in Europe before the 1790s. 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Most people also include Rambling roses.\"}},{\"@type\":\"Question\",\"name\":\"Which are the famous Old Rose classes?\",\"acceptedAnswer\":{\"@type\":\"Answer\",\"text\":\"Bourbon, China, Hybrid Perpetual, Noisette, and Tea \u2014 all carrying China Rose ancestry that gives them the ability to flower more than once a year.\"}}]}\n<\/script>\n<h3>What are Old Garden Roses?<\/h3><p>The standard definition of an <strong>Old Garden Rose<\/strong> is that it belongs to a <strong>class<\/strong> of <a href=\"https:\/\/www.ashridgetrees.co.uk\/collections\/rose-bushes\">rose<\/a> that existed before 1867 (not counting <a href=\"https:\/\/www.ashridgetrees.co.uk\/collections\/wild-rose-plants\">wild roses<\/a>, also known as species roses), even if it was bred more recently.<\/p><p>So, according to this definition, an <strong>Old Garden Rose <\/strong>could have been bred in the last few years, while some \u201cmodern roses\u201d still available today were bred 150 years ago.<\/p><figure><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/blogs.ashridgetrees.co.uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/04\/old-rose.webp\" alt=\"Old Garden Rose\"><\/figure><p>The date 1867 marks the introduction of the first <a href=\"https:\/\/www.ashridgetrees.co.uk\/collections\/hybrid-tea-rose-bushes\">Hybrid Tea rose<\/a>, \u201cLa France\u201d, which was bred from two Old Rose classes: the Hybrid Perpetual rose \u201cMadame Victor Verdier\u201d and the Tea rose \u201cMadame Bravy\u201d.<\/p><h3>Old Rose VS Antique Rose<\/h3><p>Old Garden Roses are generally lumped into 2 main categories.<br>As with many such lists of this nature, it can be debated where or whether some of them belong, this is just an introduction:<\/p><ul>\n<li>\n<strong>Antique Roses<\/strong>: Only flower once per year. The only roses that existed in Europe before the 1790\u2019s.<\/li>\n<li>\n<strong>Old Roses<\/strong>: Most repeat flower due to having the Rosa chinensis, The China Rose, in their ancestry. The China rose revolutionised rose breeding in Europe from the early 1790\u2019s.<\/li>\n<\/ul><p>Famous <strong>Antique Rose<\/strong> (once-flowering) <strong>categories include<\/strong>: Alba, Centifolia, Damask, Gallica, Moss, Portland (AKA Damask Perpetual). Most people also include Rambling roses.<\/p><p>Famous <strong>Old Rose<\/strong> (repeat flowering) <strong>categories include<\/strong>: Bourbon, China, Hybrid Perpetual, Noisette, Tea.<\/p><p>Some great examples include:<\/p><h3>Antique Rose List<\/h3><ul>\n<li>Alba: <a href=\"https:\/\/www.ashridgetrees.co.uk\/products\/maidens-blush-shrub-rose-plants\">Maidens Blush<\/a>\n<\/li>\n<li>Alba x Damask: Felicite Parmentier <\/li>\n<li>Alba x Noisette: Madame Plantier<\/li>\n<li>Centifolia: <a href=\"https:\/\/www.ashridgetrees.co.uk\/products\/fantin-latour-shrub-rose-plants\">Fantin Latour<\/a>, Capitaine John Ingram, Spong<\/li>\n<li>Centifolia x Moss: Nuits de Young, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.ashridgetrees.co.uk\/products\/william-lobb-shrub-rose-plants\">William Lobb<\/a>\n<\/li>\n<li>Damask: <a href=\"https:\/\/www.ashridgetrees.co.uk\/products\/ispahan-shrub-rose-plants\">Ispahan<\/a>, Leda, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.ashridgetrees.co.uk\/products\/alfred-de-dalmas-shrub-rose-plants\">Alfred de Dalmas<\/a>\n<\/li>\n<li>Gallica: <a href=\"https:\/\/www.ashridgetrees.co.uk\/products\/cardinal-de-richelieu-shrub-rose-plants\">Cardinal de Richelieu<\/a>, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.ashridgetrees.co.uk\/products\/charles-de-mills-shrub-rose-plants\">Charles de Mills<\/a>, Gloire de France, President de Seze, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.ashridgetrees.co.uk\/products\/tuscany-superb-shrub-rose-plants\">Tuscany Superb<\/a>, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.ashridgetrees.co.uk\/products\/rosa-mundi-versicolor-shrub-rose-plants\">Rosa Mundi<\/a>, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.ashridgetrees.co.uk\/products\/rosa-mundi-versicolor-shrub-rose-plants\">Rosa gallica<\/a>\n<\/li>\n<li>Moss: Chapeau de Napoleon<\/li>\n<li>Portland (AKA Damask Perpetual): <a href=\"https:\/\/www.ashridgetrees.co.uk\/products\/rosa-de-rescht-shrub-rose-plants\">Rosa de Rescht<\/a>, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.ashridgetrees.co.uk\/products\/comte-de-chambord-shrub-rose-plants\">Comte de Chambord<\/a>\n<\/li>\n<\/ul><h3>Old Rose List<\/h3><ul>\n<li>Bourbon: <a href=\"https:\/\/www.ashridgetrees.co.uk\/products\/ferdinand-pichard-shrub-rose-plants\">Ferdinand Pichard<\/a>, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.ashridgetrees.co.uk\/products\/madame-pierre-oger-shrub-rose-plants\">Mme Pierre Oger<\/a>, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.ashridgetrees.co.uk\/products\/madame-isaac-pereire-shrub-rose-plants\">Madame Isaac Pereire<\/a>, Souvenir de la Malmaison<\/li>\n<li>China: Irene Watts<\/li>\n<li>Hybrid Perpetual: <a href=\"https:\/\/www.ashridgetrees.co.uk\/products\/souvenir-du-docteur-jamain-shrub-rose-plants\">Souvenir du Dr Jamain<\/a>\n<\/li>\n<li>Noisette: <a href=\"https:\/\/www.ashridgetrees.co.uk\/products\/blush-noisette-shrub-rose-plants\">Blush Noisette<\/a>\n<\/li>\n<li>Tea: Sombreuil<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n<section class=\"prodshow-shopify-block\" \n         id=\"prodshow-block-1\"\n      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